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Post  khrikulover on Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:22 pm

Okay. So this is how Things will go. If you want the text for the characters, go to your number on the forum. I have posted them up there.
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Video Examples.
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I will give examples of what I want and what I do not want.


First off. Color:


I want colors to match like this.



Not This!.


Notice how the color on the first one matches the background. If you send me a video with the colors like the second one I will send it right back and attack you xD haha just kidding. I'll have to ask you nicely to match it to the BG.
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Here is the tricky part, The brightness and darkness of the masked characters. I Don't want to see a solid line around the masked characters.
No no.

Compare this one to the first one. Notice how there is no solid blue line around Aerith. What I use to darken/lighten a character is "color curves" I just drag the word "color curves" into the clip. There are other ways to avoid the Blue line but it's up to you to use other methods.

Second. Position:

I want correct positions.


Not Like


Though showing the flowers make the scene prettier. Would you care to explain to me how or why Aerith is so low to the ground? @__@ lol.
Please look at the position and the background of the characters and place them carefully. Make it look believable.

Last but probably the hardest. Masking:

I know not everyone can mask nicely/perfectly. What I will say is that if the masking is too hard for you. Choose something more simple! DO NOT bite off more then you can chew!

BUT! I will tell you guys what I really REALLY! DO NOT! want.
That is CHROME KEYER
DO NOT WANT! Evil or Very Mad

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Post  XchibiiKid0 on Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:41 pm

Oh! thank you I really need that! btw has something I want ask : :


about noctis & cloud hair! how many blur points I have to put? 1 or 2 points... since their hair is impossible to make perfect...
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Post  khrikulover on Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:16 pm

It's up to you dear. I don't really mind how you do it. As long as you don't whore the clip with chrome keyer xD Haha. And you don't have to perfect Noctis and Clouds hair since I know it's really difficult to do that.
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Post  kikka1302 on Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:40 am

well I totally understand what you mean hun x3x3

about noctis & cloud hair! how many blur points I have to put? 1 or 2 points... since their hair is impossible to make perfect...


I usually use 1,5 for hair [of course it depends on the clip and on the scene] because I really don't like when the hair outlines are too sharp!!
sometimes, when the character moves a lot I put 2 or even 3 when the clip itself is really blurred!
btw
It's up to you dear. I don't really mind how you do it. As long as you don't whore the clip with chrome keyer xD Haha. And you don't have to perfect Noctis and Clouds hair since I know it's really difficult to do that.

I totally agree with my granny ;DDDD


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Post  Cutiegino on Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:11 am

Nice explaining xD
As soon as I saw this I was quickly onto Sony Vegas learning how to use colour correcter... I think I know how to use it now c: .
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Post  khrikulover on Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:57 pm

Yay! my kikka-chan agrees with me! x3 Also thanks for the pointers dear! xD

@Jessy. That's great then! =3
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Post  kikka1302 on Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:55 am

ahah no prob ;D anyway I've got a question [is this the right topic? xD]
do we have a specific deadline? =D
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Post  khrikulover on Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:45 pm

kikka1302 wrote:ahah no prob ;D anyway I've got a question [is this the right topic? xD]
do we have a specific deadline? =D

That's fine xD this forum is for questions after all.

Hum....
Well. I don't really wanna push my editors since I want them to do a good job. But lets make our deadline....November 20th just to pressure people into working. Though I can always extend it if needed
And for all those who wants to extend it better have good reasons too! Wink
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Post  XchibiiKid0 on Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:55 pm

thank you for the hint! I was little I was half in doubt about it. thanks! other thing!! can someone send me some aerith cutscenes and Final Fantasy versus XIII trailers! in HQ or HD plz
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Post  khrikulover on Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:36 pm

That's fine dear =3

Well. I usually download my videos from Youtube. With a website called
www.keepvid.com
http://keepvid.com/
copy and paste the url to the download bar and click download. then wait for it to load, it'll pop up and download it in 720.

Here are some Videos.
Just copy and paste the give url xD

Versus Trailers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkZvdT3QS4k&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGyVZRHZ2ow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODlzMGwhipA&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft7dU-gvSOY&feature=related

Aerith Cutescenes.(This guy has great HD clips so just search through him xD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkeIMuCxxqw&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7hmopRgiKo

I hope that helps dear. I really have no other idea on how to download =(
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Post  Cutiegino on Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:56 am

So I just used the Colour Correcter but is it right that there is a bit of a coloured line around it, not to obvious though?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgKS3umLkvA *At the very end of the video there is a picture*

I hope this is the right way o.e
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Post  khrikulover on Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:27 am

@Jessy. That looks fine hun But, may I suggest using...

Color Balance, to change the color
(play with the colors. You can make it any color if you slight tweak the three main colors xD)
and
Saturation Adjustment to make the color brighter or saturated
(I use this instead of color correcter/Secondary because when you mask and use that there's always a white line around it =3 )

Just look for the word and drag it onto the clip =3 like what you did with color curves.
Try that and if the results are the same then its fine =3
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Post  XchibiiKid0 on Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:56 am

thank you for the links! I'm gonna download they now Very Happy
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Post  XchibiiKid0 on Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:53 pm

I was testing the colors on my sony vegas Cool of course these screenshot are not from the video xD
should be more or less how you want us to use the colors?
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Post  khrikulover on Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:24 pm

Amazing job Lin-chan! I really love the second one xD The color Blends VERY! well! and the first one is nice too. But! if I may suggest something, And this goes out to all members
You see the red oval I've circled?

Notice how the back ground is light right?, that causes the dark lines on Cloud's hair to be more visible. So maybe if you darken the background color, move Cloud away from the light, or lighten Cloud, the dark lines would be less visible xD
I hope I'm not being too pushy about this =3
Thank you for showing me some examples dear.

So what I'm trying to tell all members(and I'll use Lin-chan's examples since I'm do lazy to make some, Sorry lin-chan xD)
Is that, if the characters you masked still has a little part of the background/scenery with them, make sure the background/scenery you choose will match the masked character,
similar to this one. The dark BG blends in the dark lines in Cloud's hair
Lines LESS Visible


Lines Visible
If you do one like the one below, make sure to tweak the color to match the dark lines.
Maybe darken the background, or flip/switch the BG around so the dark part will be behind Cloud's dark lines instead of the white/light part.


Confusing. Yes @@
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Post  XchibiiKid0 on Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:40 pm

It's okay dear! that's why I decide to send it ; I was little confused about the background; I try to use a lot of adjustment layers just to hide that black side of Cloud's hair; I didn't know we have to choose a right picture for the background! a new thing that I learn today Very Happy
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Post  khrikulover on Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:20 pm

Haha. It's fine dear. Sorry if I sounded too rough @@
You know, when I'm too lazy to mask nicely. I just usually hide the back masking with the right BG so that people won't see how bad I mask xD haha. But don't tell anyone about it @@ It's a secret between us.
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Post  Cutiegino on Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:53 am

Ooo While we are doing all these video things, I need help in how do mask fast masking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=982qjymir8k

In this video of were Tidus is running the mask seems to lag? or not keep up with the footage.
*I don't know how to fully explain it >.<*
But is there a way to fix this problem? I can't do any fast maskings at all and its really stuffing me up.
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Post  kikka1302 on Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:51 am

I know it's really annoying when you did a so hard mask and then Vegas won't render it in the best way!
so I found a method to fix it and kick Vegas' ass xDD
[I hope it works with you too!]

TO SEE THE WHOLE IMAGE YOU SHOULD RIGHT CLICK ON THE IMAGE AND THEN CHOOSE "SHOW IMAGE".... sorry I made them too big!

EDIT:
REMEMBER TO MAKE THIS PROCESS BEFORE YOU START MASKING! IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT!!

well... everytime you do a mask and you have put an anchor at every keyframe

Spoiler:

you should take a look at the clip's frame rate! =D
so right click on the clip, choose "properties" and look at the number written after "undersample rate"

Spoiler:

then make sure that the number written after "frame rate" in the project settings is the same as the clip

Spoiler:
[after doing this you should move the clip, even for a really small step, just to allineate it with the new frame rate.. it is really hard to explain... I hope you can understand what I mean!]

now you can click on "rendering" settings, choose "custom" on Template and on the "video" folder choose the right frame rate

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if it is not enough just go on the "project" folder [in the rendering settings] and under "video rendering quality" choose "preview"

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that's what I always do! I really hope it will work fo you too ;DD


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Post  XchibiiKid0 on Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:05 pm

@khrikulover don't worry dear I won't tell xD

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Post  khrikulover on Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:56 pm

Wah! thanks so much Kikka-chan! you really saved my butt!! lol xD
You are so awesome dear! *____*
I'm always so late at replying x(

@Lin-chan yay! xD
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Post  kikka1302 on Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:21 pm

@granny
ahah don't wory hun! I was really bored today and I was totally happy when I found out that I could feel helpful in some way xD
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Post  Cutiegino on Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:00 pm

@Kikka1302

Thank you so much!! I will go try it out and see what happens Very Happy
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Post  khrikulover on Sun Nov 06, 2011 1:32 am

@Kikka-chan. Aw. hun. You're always so helpful though! xD

@Jessy. I'll be waiting then Wink
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Post  Lymun16 on Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:58 am

Kikka is the best! <3 Very Happy I had such problems with my ACC masks!
Thank you thank you thank you <3 <3 <3
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